June 25th, 2009
I’ve been involved in a few discussions recently where some instances of really dumb things in science fiction movies came up. I’m not talking science here so much (my usual issue to harp on) as just things that are so astoundingly dumb you got to wonder what people were thinking, or if they were thinking at all.
TV has more dumb crap than movies, but you have to start somewhere, and films are generally a lot more memorable and more commonly shared.
Here’s my short list of losers, but I’m sure you can suggest some other ones. Prepare to groan, laugh, or cry…I’ve dug up some relevant videos for them, but it wasn’t always easy. Be warned that there are spoilers below, but personally I’d like to be warned about the mega dumb in order to avoid it.
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. God lives in the center of the galaxy beyond a great barrier that no one can get through, and that no one has ever gotten through (so how do they know he’s there?), except that the Enterprise can fly there in a few hours and zip in and out without any problems. (Wish the crew of Voyager knew it wouldn’t take them decades to travel a fraction of that distance.) God, where to start? The whole thing was just so very, very dumb.
The Star Wars prequels introducing the midi-chlorians as essentially “sexually transmitted disease” carrying the Force (thanks, Brian, for that way of looking at things). There was a bunch of other dumb stuff, too, from trying to make the Force sort of scientific, and then making Darth Vader the product of a virgin birth. Oh, and Jar Jar Binks. C3PO was the comic relief in the original movies, but that wasn’t enough. Or how about the offensive racial stereotypes pasted onto the aliens? Still, I pick the midi-chlorians.
Superman flies so fast, the spin of the Earth reverses and so does time, so he can rescue Lois Lane from the nuclear-explosion-triggered earthquake. WTF? I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. And in the second Superman movie, he and the Phantom Zone criminals start pulling powers out of their asses like those light beams out of their hands. (OK, not their asses, technically.) It’s not science, it’s not even fantasy (which would be self-consistent in most cases). It’s just dumb, almost like “then he woke up and she wasn’t dead.” And unfortunately, the Superman movies got more and more dumb with additional sequels.
Han shot first in Star Wars! We’ve already got dumb stuff in the creature cantina scene with Han’s line about the Falcon making the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs, something that Lucas didn’t fix when he revised the movie. You don’t just go back and change characters like this and think it’s smart. It’s like da Vinci rising from his grave to put a little frown on the Mona Lisa. It’s dumb! Actually, when I watch the new one, it’s like someone scribbled all over the Mona Lisa. Not that Star Wars was ever the Mona Lisa, but still…
In the movie Signs, these sophisticated and evil alien assholes fly to Earth, a planet rich in life and oceans and rain, and attack the humans with hand to hand combat. If that weren’t dumb enough, water, WATER, is like acid to them. Oh, God, yes, about the only substance scientists universally think is likely necessary for life. Dumb!
In Independence Day, the scientist uses his Mac to upload a virus to help beat the aliens. WTF? Computers in movies may as well be totally fucking magic. Any computer genius can hack a password in a minute with a gun to his head while getting a blowjob (Swordfish), so this fan-altered ending to ID4 may as well have been what happened.
The dragons of Reign of Fire eat ash (lots of chemical energy there), destroy almost all land-based life on the surface of the world periodically yet leave no evidence of this, and have only a single male to fertilize the eggs for the entire species. I mean, these fuckers hibernate, too, right? For next to forever, apparently. The dragons were so cool, fighting them was so cool, but the entire concept as developed was incredibly dumb!
Basing a serious movie like Mission to Mars on the “Face on Mars” is an idea that should have been laughed out of production. But noooooo…and we’re all the dumber for it.
The plot of The Core. Bonus points for applying “this is your brain on drugs” type visuals to “this is the Earth without an E-M field.” There’s a lot of dumb in here. Microwaves go right through magnetic fields, but not through atmosphere very well, for instance.
Got to finish up with my favorite kick ball, Armageddon. Any scene in the whole movie is dumb, I suggest. I’ve ranted about this one before. More than once. It’s not only the science that is dumb, however, but a lot of the little complicating details that make no sense. I mean, these are fucking morons running around in space with 12 days of training coming down with “space dementia” and attacking each other and being general goofs. Sorry if I’m being too repetitive with this, but I can’t make a “dumbest” list without including this entire movie. Anyway, here’s a ten-minute version of the film that has cut out most of the movie (and hence most of the errors) and should be the official version from now on.
I’m sure there are a lot of equally worthy matches to these, unfortunately. Somehow there’s always room for dumb stuff in movies, even when people are spending $100 million.
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There’s something more annoying, in my humble opinion : people who don’t understand WHY I feel annoyed by dumb scifi ideas, and tell me candidly that “it’s science fiction anyway, so it doesn’t matter”. As if science fiction was a synonym for “anything we don’t experience in the actual everyday life”. Dammit, there’s SCIENCE in Science-fiction, why is it so hard to get for some people ?
Who designed the Armageddon asteroid anyway? The glass spikes? Give me a break! Let’s not forget The Black Hole. Those guys were running down a glass tunnel that’s integrity was being destroyed. Wouldn’t the vacuum of space have killed them once the artifical atmosphere was gone? Great article!
I have a feeling that the latest incarnation of Star Trek will, with the passage of time, become enshrined in the Top Ten of Dumb SF.
I hated all those too. And I agree with Armageddon at #1.
Have you seen Sunshine yet?
My 2nd biggest problem with any Star Trek movie (after God at the centre of the Milky Way) was the doomsday weapon used in whichever one it was that had Kirk and Picard in it*. It purportedly shut down fusion at the core of the sun, or something. Considering that a single photon takes 100,000 years to go from the core of our Sun to its outer surface — that’s not much of a doomsday weapon, unless you consider the lo-o-o-ong view.
/nerd
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* Together at last!
Well, Mike, we have another one in the making as we blog. Dead in the middle of the ABC miniseries “Impact” (pun intended), we see that a dwarf star chunk has cracked the Moon, sent it sailing toward Earth and, horror of horrors, disrupted cell phone service. We watch as Earth’s inhabitants have to hold on to ground-implanted objects to keep from being flung into space by gravity blurbles yet communication satellites contine to orbit flawlessly. I’m having more difficulty finding real science in this movie than phony baloney science. Who in the world writes these things? Are we really getting this dumb that this kind of malarkey crap entertains us? Who did they use for a scientific consultant, Borat? Wow! The only saving grace to this whole waste of time is Natasha Henstridge. And . . . those who criticized Armageddon hold on. You’re getting ready to see some real funky fiction fodder next Sunday as it concludes.
I’m really hoping the Science and Entertainment Exchange (http://www.scienceandentertainmentexchange.org/) will help with this. It a project to try to connect Hollywood writers, directors, and producers with real scientists. It has help from the National Academy of Science and a bunch of big names in both Hollywood and academia. Here’s for hoping.
Back to the specific subject, my wife likes Armageddon, though largely for the emotional aspects. She has banned me from watching it with her (though I don’t think she has watched it since) because I can’t stay serious. She gets teary eyed while I’m laughing, and that doesn’t go over well.
Great post! Despite their flaws, I still love all these movies.
Nomadz, I have exactly the same reaction as you. So far my efforts to correct this attitude haven’t managed to change the world…
Sharon, I haven’t seen the Black Hole. Sounds questionable, for sure. Christopher, I haven’t seen Sunshine yet, but the premise sounds dumb to me, along with some plot elements — which sounds like the Core. When a movie rips off the Core, it’s got to be dumb.
John, Impact sounds like a real stinker. I’m not in the States and certainly not watching it.
Matthew, there were several things in the new Trek film I thought were pretty dumb. I like the characters and the adventure, and just wonder why people fail at such an epic level when they try to make a plot with science fiction elements!
Pat, stopping the fusion reactions would have some terrible and immediate consequences, but I’d need to know about the details of what it does. The star would collapse under gravity right away. Normally this would set off some type of supernova as skyrocketing temperatures and densities would ignite new nuclear reactions — but would those be “turned off” also? I can accept that it would be bad…almost as bad as Kirk’s “It’s been fun” death scene. More stupid there…
Drew, I hope so, too. From the talks I’ve had with those who have been inside the movie industry, the producers/studios have absolutely no concern for accuracy of any type in their movies. It’s about immediate impact and the bottom line. Still, getting more actors, directors, and writers with the pro-science program can’t hurt. I think.
And sometimes at Launch Pad we all watch Armageddon just to make fun of it. It’s a great educational tool…
The Black Hole was a hokey movie made by Disney in the 1970s. They forgot the science and it’s not even a cartoon.
I think these movies under critique have all ventured from the Sci-fi genre into just plain Fantasy and should be labeled as such. The last Sci-Fi movie in my opinion was 2001: A Space Odyssey. That’s my story and I’m stickin’ with it.
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Just had to follow up on that “Impact” miniseries on ABC last night. Before I quit watching it (yes, it just hurt my brain), I heard mention that the “chunk” of brown dwarf star that impacted the moon and perturbed its orbit slightly was TWICE THE MASS OF EARTH! This one may go down as the most inane Sci-fi movie of all (and it was seen by umpteen million viewers. Lord help us all. (Mike you’ve just got to watch this one.)
Ouch, John. Sounds bad in more ways than one.
Kind of makes me want to give a final in my “science and science fiction” course where I just show a movie and let them write down what’s wrong with it. And what’s right.
You left out one of the dumbest things in sci fi movies EVER.
In Starship Troopers, a TV newsman is supposedly broadcasting back to Earth a report from a battle on a planet in another solar system and doing so LIVE. The NEAREST star is Alpha Centauri, some 3 or 4 LIGHT YEARS from Earth. Unless that TV outfit had figured out someway to dramatically increase the speed of light (which TV signals move at), how is that possible? It isn’t!!!
Glad/Hope you enjoyed the ID4 Video. Thanks for the embed.
James, I think there’s FTL in that movie, so I passed on that bit. Still, how the bugs learn to shit bombs out their asses and fly them faster than light to Earth…
Jill, I did enjoy the ID4 video! Keep up the good work!