August 26th, 2009
Over at SF Signal.com there’s a new Mind-Meld:
Much of the general populace believes that SciFi films are nothing more than dumb fun, but genre fans know better. Science fiction offers filmmakers a unique opportunity to be thought-provoking and meaningful, or at least something more cerebral than, say, Santa Claus Conquers the Martians.
We asked this week’s panelists the following:
Here’s my response, among the others:
Intelligent science fiction film? There’s not a lot of it, but it is out there. Here’s my list:
I could spend a lot of words justifying the strengths and downplaying the weaknesses of each of these, but there’s plenty of meat in them to think about after the credits roll (and before!). None are prerfect, but they’re all intelligent.
Think about these, and enjoy them.
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Mike, I’m happy to see Primer on your list. It’s probably one of the most mind-blowing time travel stories I’ve ever seen. I’ve seen it three times and still can’t completely wrap my head around it.
Do you really prefer Aliens to the first Alien or is it a mistake ?
never heard of Prime…
I haven’t seen Primer, Gattaca or Star Trek II from that list. I’d like to see the first two and possibly Star Trek II mostly for the infamous Kahn yell that Shatner does.
I would probably add Moon and District 9 to any list of intelligent science fiction. District 9 esepecially. If one has not seen that movie, go and do it now!
I have not seen Moon or District 9, and would like to.
I do believe that Aliens is a more intelligent movie than Alien. Alien is a horror story with a double agent. Aliens is more complex on several levels and brings in more to think about, from the same kind of issues as in Alien (the Company and its disregard for people in the face of profit), dangers of colonization, the fact that there are space marines and their duty, the humanity of androids and whether they’re people, the full alien life cycle and what motherhood might have in common across all life, etc.
Star Trek II confronts some real issues about genetic engineering, if two different kinds of humans can get along, if exile is a reasonable solution, what responsibilities we have when we play judge, whether or not the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few (self-sacrifice, the usual logic vs. emotion, and the importance of three-dimensional thinking when engaging in space battles.
Rogerio, Primer was a small, independent film. It was probably never released in Brazil.
Great list! And it’s so very true that if you didn’t think about what the movie was about, then you probably slept through it; your loss!
Hum… You might be right about Aliens. I know I’m partial to the original Alien, because I saw it at a young age and it totally blew my mind. I was used to shiny science fiction where everything is clean and neat and well polished, where people wear impeccable uniforms and always have a nice haircut, where spaceships glide like birds with a “wooosh” sound. Alien was a revelation because life in a spaceship was believable : it was gritty, dirty, people were not heroes in shiny uniforms but just people, not different from our actual sailors or oil rig workers. They were sleepy, didn’t shave, discussed bonuses and salaries. The descent towards the planetoid was pictured as risky and complicated (I’m always amazed at how long that scene is – in other movies, entering atmosphere and landing would just be done in one shot). It all felt so real – not unlike Battlestar Galactica, where the writer of the series explained he wanted to design a spaceship that would feel like real people were actually using it and living in it.
When the second Aliens came, the sense of novelty was gone and I thought there was too much “rule of cool” and action scenes. But in a way you’re right, more issues are handled in it than in the first one.
Sorry for the long post. I’m being nostalgic !
Mike, have you seen “Time crimes” ? It’s a recent spanish movie, not as complicated as Primer, it’s dealing with time travel in a more sarcastic and sometimes humorous way, but it’s still interesting as far as time paradoxes are concerned.
Haven’t seen Time Crimes, but I’ll look out for it.
I love Alien, too. Different strengths and weaknesses compared to Aliens. For sheer horror, Alien is hard to beat. As a kid, the Alan Dean Foster novelization kept me sleepless — I was sure a face-hugger was lurking in my closet.
Hey there nike,
I dont think Ill be hearing from you(am a bit late on the blog I guess) but Ill post my opinion anyway.
I love Sci-fi and Yes,I find it sad that the general audience relate Sci-fi with popcorn blockbuster fodder but I guess Hollywood deserves the blame.I like your list and yes I would add duncan Jones’s moon as well.
Also how on earth did you forget Starship troopers?
Look beneath the shine and you’ll find a gem of a movie in it