April 30th, 2008
There have been a number of books/movies/tv shows presenting conflicts between rationial vs. scientific world views on the science vs. fantasy spectrum.
I submit that they’ve all been unfair.
I recall watching Northern Exposure on TV some 15 years ago, more or less. It was an interesting show about a doctor with a fellowship compelled to serve in Alaska for several years to pay off the debt. What was stupid was that he represented a scientific point of view, while the locals provided a faith-based point of view, and he never took into account the data of his experiences there in adjusting his worldview. The show didn’t play fair. They cheated. Science takes into account information from the environment in reaching conclusions. For the majority of the show, Joel just looked like an ass denying the events that occurred based on nothing. It wasn’t science. It was the suck.
This is happening on Battlestar Galactica to a certain extent. Baltar is our scientist there. He’s making the rationalist argument, but he’s also being swayed. I’m okay with that, because on the show the faith-based perspective has facts in support.
I’m very sympathetic toward Baltar. He’s a smart guy, like me. He likes women, like me. He just wants to survive, like me, and pretty much anyone reading this. He’s too often made to be the bad guy. I hope he’s redeemed in the end. He hasn’t been immoral as I’ve seen it. He’s been rationally human. The show, on the other hand, has played into irrationality. Drugs give true visions, for instance. Not in my experience, please.
Look. In a piece of fiction I’ll buy into the realities of that fiction. Just make them clear and honest. Too often we have idiocy. Characters like Joel Fleishmann who keep on with a modern, scientific worldview despite events that he sees and experiences. Change the rules, and science will figure it out. Stories that fail in this respect represent writers who don’t understand science.
Science works. We have a world of technology that demonstrates this in no uncertain terms. If you disagree, you’re wrong. Live up to it.
This is not to say that science is the be all and end all. Life is about more than that. But if you want facts to cling to, rules to understand, stick with science.
Where science conflicts with other paradigms, the other paradigms are probably wrong. This is just based on how science works. Science doesn’t work everywhere, but where it works, pay attention.
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The science v fantasy dichotomy was at the heart of the X-Files. Within the X-Files universe, paranormal phenomenon and exterrestrials were real. The scientist/skeptic, Scully, came to accept the reality of the paranormal based on the evidence and her own experience. The “true believer,” Mulder, also evaluated evidence, albeit with a pre-existing bias. Why does he believe in extraterrestrials despite all of the evidence to the contrary? “Because all of the evidence to the contrary is not entirely dissuasive.” Precisely. As a fictitious universe, the X-Files was by and large tenable. The truth that is out there is entirely up to the creative authors of the show. Within that fictitious framework, the scientific method will find that truth and expose the lies. But because the setting is our real world and real government instutions, the effect can be pernicious. The fictitious evidence does not exist in the real world. To the extent that the X-Files encourages anyone to believe that real evidence supports the existence of government conspiracies to conceal evidence of UFO contact, then the show has a had a bad effect, despite being aesthetically decent on presenting how science works.
Yeah, that’s a nice example. The X-files did play mostly fair, although it took quite some time to evolve the characters and move away from the original formula. Scully did change her mind when presented with the evidence.
I like your point, too, that the real-world effect can be pernicious.
I was stopped right in my track while reading Blood Bound (the setting is the modern world but with magic) by Patricia Briggs recently, because the main character said something to the effect that science doesn’t allow for magic, which shows just how much she knows how science really works. That’s especially funny, because in most fantasy novels magic systems have extensive rules and science could easily discover these and integrate it into a larger framework that mixes the common facts about how the world works in our world plus the magic system.
Good point, Jorn. I think there may be a subset of magic where the claim could be made, but that subset is almost never the case in modern fantasy.
I’ve been asked to write an expanded and clearer version of this post for Fantasy, and will let everyone know when that’s up. I think they’re going to run it as part of a contest with a small prize for most insightful/interesting comment in response.
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